Wisteria style

Cali-Mike · 05-09-2009, 10:24 AM

Here's one I picked up in Feb. It's a wisteria. It's 20in tall and the base is 8in around. I have no idea how to style a wisteria. Any styling ideas? Any pot ideas? This pic is 2 months old. It has alot more green on it now.

Mike

philgrayser · 05-09-2009, 01:50 PM

Hi Mike, a lot of the Wisteria i have seen have a 'hanging'canopy as in they have long branches that hang down like a weeping willow or like long hair on someones head as i tend to say!
I like to think that they are the 'hippy' looking trees for this reason ha ha!!! Phil G

Pup · 05-09-2009, 09:01 PM

Most Wisteria are styled as tall trees with some lean. Also cascade and semi cascade so when it flowers they have room to hang. After that let them go until they drop there leaves feed them with a high phosphorus,
Fertilizer. Stand back and watch the flowers again.

It is said of Wisteria that they can never have enough water or food even if you sit them in a bucket of liquid manure!!!.
My wife's flowers every year with out fail getting the same treatment as all my trees fertilizer once per fortnight with Phostogen.
Hope this helps Pup

Cali-Mike · 05-09-2009, 09:57 PM

Phil... most of the wisteria i've seen look like hippies! No real "bonsai" style. Just semi-cascading over a pot.
Thanks Pup. The stems are 4 times as long now, as in the pic. Almost down to the pot line. I'll feed this thing. When do they bloom? You think this one will bloom this year? Any ideas on a pot? Thanks for your help guys!

Mike

Pup · 05-09-2009, 10:50 PM

There are two types of Wisteria. Sinensis and Floribunda.
Sinensis the flowers bloom before the leaves expand.
Floribunda does so as the leaves become fully expanded.

The flowering really begins at the same time with both. However flowering
goes on for longer in Floribunder so there is time for the leaves to fully expand.
There are two types of twining of the vines. One twines clockwise the other Anti clockwise.
Floribunda is Clockwise
Sinensis is Anti clockwise.

There are other species

clwagner167 · 05-13-2009, 12:39 AM

Hi Mike,

How about a round black mica for your Wisteria?

Just a thought,

Cali-Mike · 05-14-2009, 10:05 AM

Hi Cheryl

Good idea. It's worth a try. I'm stumped on the pot. I was thinking semi-cascade maybe. I have a mica drum pot. Anymore pot ideas out there?

Mike

Tanuki Mario · 05-17-2009, 10:55 AM

Nice Wisteria you have there Cali-Mike

One thing to concider when styling and pot selection is Wisteria in large full healthy blooms are extremely top heavy. If your going for that heavy blooms look that is. Some people prune the raceme so only a few bloom and hang down. A less is more effect. Just mentioning it cuz Ive read alot about people putting full bloom Wisteria on a monkey poll just to have the wind knock it down.

They tend to bud on last years growth. They sometimes can take years before they decide to produce flowers. Drought stressing and other stressing techniques tend to help with flower production in Wisteria as well.

Cali-Mike · 05-17-2009, 11:03 AM

Thanks for the help, and welcome to the site! I don't think it'll bloom this year, as you said it blooms on last years wood, and this is this years growth. The falling over occured to me too. They seem to be very top heavy trees.
Should I partially trim this years growth? The thing is almost hanging to the bench. Will that effect next years chance to bloom? Thanks again for your help.

Mike

Mattbonsai · 05-17-2009, 11:14 AM

Pruning Wisteria is an art form in itself, With many people having a different method of doing so, the one I use to encourage flowers is:

*Prune this years growth in late summer to approx 7 inches long.

*Prune the same branches back to 3 buds in early spring.

Hope this helps.

-Matt-

05-09-2009, 09:01 PM	#3 (permalink)
Pup Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Perth suburbs Western Australia Posts: 406	Most Wisteria are styled as tall trees with some lean. Also cascade and semi cascade so when it flowers they have room to hang. After that let them go until they drop there leaves feed them with a high phosphorus, Fertilizer. Stand back and watch the flowers again. It is said of Wisteria that they can never have enough water or food even if you sit them in a bucket of liquid manure!!!. My wife's flowers every year with out fail getting the same treatment as all my trees fertilizer once per fortnight with Phostogen. Hope this helps Pup __________________ G, day I live in western Australia I have been trying for the last 20+ years with some success to grow Bonsai. I am a perpetual learner and an advanced beginner

05-09-2009, 09:57 PM	#4 (permalink)
Cali-Mike Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Fresno California Posts: 36	Phil... most of the wisteria i've seen look like hippies! No real "bonsai" style. Just semi-cascading over a pot. Thanks Pup. The stems are 4 times as long now, as in the pic. Almost down to the pot line. I'll feed this thing. When do they bloom? You think this one will bloom this year? Any ideas on a pot? Thanks for your help guys! Mike __________________ "bonsai don't need a lot of water, just watered a lot"

05-09-2009, 10:50 PM	#5 (permalink)
Pup Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Perth suburbs Western Australia Posts: 406	There are two types of Wisteria. Sinensis and Floribunda. Sinensis the flowers bloom before the leaves expand. Floribunda does so as the leaves become fully expanded. The flowering really begins at the same time with both. However flowering goes on for longer in Floribunder so there is time for the leaves to fully expand. There are two types of twining of the vines. One twines clockwise the other Anti clockwise. Floribunda is Clockwise Sinensis is Anti clockwise. There are other species __________________ G, day I live in western Australia I have been trying for the last 20+ years with some success to grow Bonsai. I am a perpetual learner and an advanced beginner

05-13-2009, 12:39 AM	#6 (permalink)
clwagner167 "Grasshopper" Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: S.E. Michigan Posts: 102	Hi Mike, How about a round black mica for your Wisteria? Just a thought, __________________ ~ Cheryl Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment. Buddha Please support "your" site and click on the ads. _________________________________________ In memory of my dear friend.... "Prowler" Victor Gray 1943-2008

05-14-2009, 10:05 AM	#7 (permalink)
Cali-Mike Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Fresno California Posts: 36	Hi Cheryl Good idea. It's worth a try. I'm stumped on the pot. I was thinking semi-cascade maybe. I have a mica drum pot. Anymore pot ideas out there? Mike __________________ "bonsai don't need a lot of water, just watered a lot"

05-09-2009, 01:50 PM	#2 (permalink)
philgrayser philgrayser Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Scotland Posts: 132	Hi Mike, a lot of the Wisteria i have seen have a 'hanging'canopy as in they have long branches that hang down like a weeping willow or like long hair on someones head as i tend to say! I like to think that they are the 'hippy' looking trees for this reason ha ha!!! Phil G

05-17-2009, 10:55 AM	#8 (permalink)
Tanuki Mario Join Date: May 2009 Location: Ontario Posts: 9	Nice Wisteria you have there Cali-Mike One thing to concider when styling and pot selection is Wisteria in large full healthy blooms are extremely top heavy. If your going for that heavy blooms look that is. Some people prune the raceme so only a few bloom and hang down. A less is more effect. Just mentioning it cuz Ive read alot about people putting full bloom Wisteria on a monkey poll just to have the wind knock it down. They tend to bud on last years growth. They sometimes can take years before they decide to produce flowers. Drought stressing and other stressing techniques tend to help with flower production in Wisteria as well. __________________ Some of my trees Bonsai Area Construction

05-17-2009, 11:03 AM	#9 (permalink)
Cali-Mike Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Fresno California Posts: 36	Thanks for the help, and welcome to the site! I don't think it'll bloom this year, as you said it blooms on last years wood, and this is this years growth. The falling over occured to me too. They seem to be very top heavy trees. Should I partially trim this years growth? The thing is almost hanging to the bench. Will that effect next years chance to bloom? Thanks again for your help. Mike __________________ "bonsai don't need a lot of water, just watered a lot"

05-17-2009, 11:14 AM	#10 (permalink)
Mattbonsai Tree Hugger In Training Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Cheshire, GB Posts: 810	Pruning Wisteria is an art form in itself, With many people having a different method of doing so, the one I use to encourage flowers is: Prune this years growth in late summer to approx 7 inches long. Prune the same branches back to 3 buds in early spring. Hope this helps. -Matt- __________________ -Matt- http://www.cheshirebonsaisociety.org.uk/index.html R.I.P Our Great Friend - Prowler, 24th November 2008

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