bonsaikc

Here's the next installment:

In this case, the tree dominates the display, so I'd also like to know your comments about the tree itself. What do you think? How does it fit in your understanding of bonsai?

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JTGJr25

The main tree to me lacks taper and branch structure. It also seems that the first branch is way too large and thick. It has potential I'm just not sure where I would take it if it were mine.

The juniper is a much better tree imo.

Tom

Phil

I'm also not too wild about the large branch on the left of the main tree. Then again, this is a two dimensional picture which never really tells the whole story. One thing that bothers me is the the lower right thin branch. It seems to serve no purpose and is a tad distracting. One thing for sure, its certainly not being used as a sacrifice branch as this trunk has plenty of girth already! The juniper....looking great from what I can see. As I said, pictures never really tell the whole story. If I were to see it in person I might very well have a different perspective on it.

~Phil

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akeppler

That may be the best quote in this whole discussion on displays!

bonsaikc

This is true. It's difficult to really get to the meat of a display in a 2d representation. However, it is difficult for us to all get together in one place and view the displays in person.

That being said, I believe the lower right branch that seems so small is being grown out to take its place on the tree, not as a sacrifice. Hence the movement that has been put in it.

I'm wondering if the movement of this tree isn't properly to the left, instead of the right. Perhaps that's why the accent plant is on the far left, and the second tree is on the right. I'd like to play with this one to see what comes of moving the elements around.

Maybe we could get our "flea" to do some virtuals showing how smart he is, although he has never participated in a show like this.

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JTGJr25

If that theory is true then the two lower branches would never be close in thickness or it would take a large number of years to get close.

IMO to make this into a better tree I would somehow remove the lower branch and start over with a new branch structure. I'm not sure how that could be done but I'm sure theres a way.

Very true about 2d pictures. It is very hard to truly "see" the tree without added dimension.

Tom

Phil

I'll refrain from making more comments as to that other than to say.....well noted, he never has, never will and agreed upon. To go on....

Well I seriously doubt that would be the case but thank you Al. William Valavanis gave some good input as to a display here and something to be learned by I'm sure. Granted, one always takes a chance as it were when submitting a photo for judgment. It may very well turn against the one who submits it but by the same token it can also very well turn out favorably. Just something one takes a chance with in some ways. The photos submitted here on displays were for the most part of very good quality from I can see as to lighting and in general quite excellent. However, if one wishes to take a photo for judgment by others that person must take the fact of the two dimensional aspect and its many faults into account and take all the more care as to how it is taken. Of course I'm referring to any such perceived serious competition and or judgment upon a tree via the Internet. I'll freely admit that it is indeed quite a challenge but such is the case when one decides to throw in a photo for judgment, criticism etc. by others. I'm quite confident that most if not all pictures presented in a book by well known bonsai masters/teachers were give the utmost care as to there photo quality and presentation given the above mentioned cautions/faults and as to how one can see a two dimensional picture of a prize tree. As for the amateur, I guess it can at times work against one or, at times, favor one considering the the photo. As for me, all the more need to stand back and try to do the best I can when taking a photo and simply hope that it conveys my tree as it is and as best as I possibly can and hope for the best. Then again, as for me personally, I'm into bonsai simply for self satisfaction and relaxation so competition never really enters the picture (no pun intended!)

~Phil

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