New Eugenia Matosi

bohrier · 01-30-2011, 08:41 AM

Hello, I have Just aquired this Eugenia matosi from a nursery, and I'd like some help on how to style the little fella.

Frente/Front

Lateral/SideView

Costas/Back

SideView

Superior/Top

Center

Detail

Detalhe/Detail

Detalhe/Detail

Can you help me out?

treebeard55 · 01-30-2011, 09:08 AM

Bohrier, I wouldn't try to style this yet: it's too thin, too small. Work it now and you'll end up with a stick-in-a-pot for years. I know you want to get right to work on it! But you'll have a much better bonsai in the long run if you are patient.

What I would do is this. Check to see if there are any places where two branches leave the trunk at the same point. If you find any such points, remove one of the branches. Also check for points where the trunk may split into three or more new trunks, again at the same point. If so, remove all but two of the "daughter trunks." All this is to make sure you don't get any bulges in the trunk later.

I don't know where in Brazil you are, but I suspect this tree will probably grow outside, in the ground, in most parts of the country. I would plant it in the ground for two years, at least, fertilize it well, protect it from pests, and let it grow.

Then, in 2-5 years, you'll have a tree that will make a nice, display-worthy bonsai once it's styled.

artyanimal · 01-31-2011, 04:19 AM

Bohrier,

For what its worth, I have the most success with two types of brush cherries, one called Eugenia myrtifolia and the other called Syzygium paniculatum. While I am not familiar with 'matosi' it appears very similar to the paniculatum known (I think) by the Aussies as the Lilly Pilly. Unfortunately, of the two, the paniculatum is the slowest growing. So Treebeard's assessment that it is too thin and too small to work on yet seems spot on to me as your cultivar looks very similar and likely, as he said, would then take years to 'shape up'.

I could not tell from the pics, does this 'matosi' show the customary redish pink leaves on new growth we are used to seeing on the others?

In any event, I would also note that in Florida sun which, is a bit mild compared to much of Brazil both trees do well in large pots or in the ground. In small bonsai pots however, I tend to have more success growing the more dwarfish paniculatum only in morning sun. It seems highly probable to me then, that this would apply to your tree as well.

Cheers,

Arty

01-30-2011, 08:41 AM	#1 (permalink)
bohrier Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Brazil Posts: 1	New Eugenia Matosi Hello, I have Just aquired this Eugenia matosi from a nursery, and I'd like some help on how to style the little fella. Frente/Front Lateral/SideView Costas/Back SideView Superior/Top Center Detail Detalhe/Detail Detalhe/Detail Detalhe/Detail Detalhe/Detail Can you help me out?

01-30-2011, 09:08 AM	#2 (permalink)
treebeard55 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Warsaw IN, USA USDA zone 5b Posts: 511	Bohrier, I wouldn't try to style this yet: it's too thin, too small. Work it now and you'll end up with a stick-in-a-pot for years. I know you want to get right to work on it! But you'll have a much better bonsai in the long run if you are patient. What I would do is this. Check to see if there are any places where two branches leave the trunk at the same point. If you find any such points, remove one of the branches. Also check for points where the trunk may split into three or more new trunks, again at the same point. If so, remove all but two of the "daughter trunks." All this is to make sure you don't get any bulges in the trunk later. I don't know where in Brazil you are, but I suspect this tree will probably grow outside, in the ground, in most parts of the country. I would plant it in the ground for two years, at least, fertilize it well, protect it from pests, and let it grow. Then, in 2-5 years, you'll have a tree that will make a nice, display-worthy bonsai once it's styled. __________________ Treebeard 55 Steve Moore http://hoosierbonsai.blogspot.com The most important bonsai tool is your brain.

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01-31-2011, 04:19 AM	#3 (permalink)
artyanimal Snipologist Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Mid-coast Maine / Zone 5 and S. Florida / Zone 10 Posts: 89	Bohrier, For what its worth, I have the most success with two types of brush cherries, one called Eugenia myrtifolia and the other called Syzygium paniculatum. While I am not familiar with 'matosi' it appears very similar to the paniculatum known (I think) by the Aussies as the Lilly Pilly. Unfortunately, of the two, the paniculatum is the slowest growing. So Treebeard's assessment that it is too thin and too small to work on yet seems spot on to me as your cultivar looks very similar and likely, as he said, would then take years to 'shape up'. I could not tell from the pics, does this 'matosi' show the customary redish pink leaves on new growth we are used to seeing on the others? In any event, I would also note that in Florida sun which, is a bit mild compared to much of Brazil both trees do well in large pots or in the ground. In small bonsai pots however, I tend to have more success growing the more dwarfish paniculatum only in morning sun. It seems highly probable to me then, that this would apply to your tree as well. Cheers, Arty

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