May be shohin ?

natureini · 11-07-2009, 07:04 AM

Hello, every body,
I like Bonsai very much, especially small Bonsai.
I have a tree, it's height 15cm.
This is the tree I have already pruned in this morning. Hoping to receive your comments. I'm in a divided mind whether this tree may be called Shohin or not.
Thank you all.

Phil · 11-08-2009, 12:01 AM

I forget the parameters for each class/size of bonsai but I'll see if I can find it.
You can also do a Google on it by simply searching for "bonsai sizes", "sizes of bonsai", etc.

~Phil~

Marrero · 11-14-2009, 04:04 PM

Tree size is used only to clasify trees for exhibitions.

The Miniature Bonsai is any tree smaller than 3 inches. (7.5 cm)

Mame is any tree three to six inches high. (7.5 to 15 cm)

Shohin is between six and twelve inches. (15 to 30 cm)

Medium Bonsai are 12 to 20 inches high

Large Bonsai are 2 - 4 feet high.

In China I saw Bonsai very large (larger than 10 feet) in cement of marble pots 15 feet long.

The actual measures can change depending on the author: Peter Chan classifies Mames as any tree 2-3 inches, and Shohin 6-7 inches.

centaura · 12-04-2009, 04:43 PM

Yes, I see a variety of classifications for bonsai, but they are mainly used for shows which need to divide trees into categories. In some publications on British shows, they use shohin and chohin as two different classifications - I think chohin was slightly taller than the shohin category. I would consider your tree a shohin tree, but that's because I think of mames as being the very tiny trees. Its my understanding that "mame" means "bean" in japanese, so therefore referring to trees that are very tiny.

I help work on a 9ft tall ficus tree, that an official Japanese judge would not even consider a bonsai - the arbitrary height when something stops being a bonsai is 100cm I've been told. But again, that's mainly for the Japanese shows where a lot of money is riding on the different categories, and not necessarily important to the casual bonsai grower.

-Centaura

natureini · 12-05-2009, 09:21 AM

Yes, thanks a lot for your useful knowledge regarding to the bonsai size. Now, I know whether my tree is Shohin or not. It's seem to be Shohin. Yes,
As they are, I like Shohin and medium bonsai.

Thank you very much and i would like to send you the ficus tree I pruned in this morning. Now, It may be called Shohin, hi hi.

jjbacoomba · 12-06-2009, 02:19 PM

Great Job!! Beautiful!!

centaura · 12-06-2009, 02:40 PM

That ficus has some great movement in the top, and some good trunk character. The only thing I don't like is that one horizontal root. I think that's a shot of the back of the tree, so its not as big an issue. But the branching is very well placed. Nice tree!

-Centaura

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Phil A bit "Windswept" Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Chicago, Ill. USDA Zone 5 Posts: 1,042	I forget the parameters for each class/size of bonsai but I'll see if I can find it. You can also do a Google on it by simply searching for "bonsai sizes", "sizes of bonsai", etc. ~Phil~ __________________ Please, always keep in mind that the typewritten word does not always convey what you wish to say, and to always treat others as you would have them treat you. Think twice-submit once. I started out with nothing....and still have most of it. "Its hell out there, give them hell back." ~ Prowler/Victor Gray 12/31/1943 - 11/24/2008

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11-14-2009, 04:04 PM	#3 (permalink)
Marrero Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Santana county, near the city of Arecibo, in the north coast of Puerto Rico Posts: 25	Tree size is used only to clasify trees for exhibitions. The Miniature Bonsai is any tree smaller than 3 inches. (7.5 cm) Mame is any tree three to six inches high. (7.5 to 15 cm) Shohin is between six and twelve inches. (15 to 30 cm) Medium Bonsai are 12 to 20 inches high Large Bonsai are 2 - 4 feet high. In China I saw Bonsai very large (larger than 10 feet) in cement of marble pots 15 feet long. The actual measures can change depending on the author: Peter Chan classifies Mames as any tree 2-3 inches, and Shohin 6-7 inches.

12-04-2009, 04:43 PM	#4 (permalink)
centaura Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South Bend, IN Posts: 334	Yes, I see a variety of classifications for bonsai, but they are mainly used for shows which need to divide trees into categories. In some publications on British shows, they use shohin and chohin as two different classifications - I think chohin was slightly taller than the shohin category. I would consider your tree a shohin tree, but that's because I think of mames as being the very tiny trees. Its my understanding that "mame" means "bean" in japanese, so therefore referring to trees that are very tiny. I help work on a 9ft tall ficus tree, that an official Japanese judge would not even consider a bonsai - the arbitrary height when something stops being a bonsai is 100cm I've been told. But again, that's mainly for the Japanese shows where a lot of money is riding on the different categories, and not necessarily important to the casual bonsai grower. -Centaura

12-05-2009, 09:21 AM	#5 (permalink)
natureini Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: VietNam Posts: 11	Yes, thanks a lot for your useful knowledge regarding to the bonsai size. Now, I know whether my tree is Shohin or not. It's seem to be Shohin. Yes, As they are, I like Shohin and medium bonsai. Thank you very much and i would like to send you the ficus tree I pruned in this morning. Now, It may be called Shohin, hi hi.

12-06-2009, 02:19 PM	#6 (permalink)
jjbacoomba Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: San Antonio,Texas Zone 8b Posts: 13	Great Job!! Beautiful!!

12-06-2009, 02:40 PM	#7 (permalink)
centaura Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: South Bend, IN Posts: 334	That ficus has some great movement in the top, and some good trunk character. The only thing I don't like is that one horizontal root. I think that's a shot of the back of the tree, so its not as big an issue. But the branching is very well placed. Nice tree! -Centaura

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