potting yamadori

Rowdy · 03-22-2011, 04:12 PM

i have decided to bypass my project to air layer some trees on my property until next spring. i have however found 2 stunted what i believe to be ash with loads of potential. when potting them after removing from the ground should they go right into bonsai pots or should i use some of the nursery pots i have around, also do i go right to bonsai soil or something else to start..
have never started with a wild tree before always nursery stock..

Rowdy · 03-22-2011, 04:42 PM

couple pics signs point to ash but i have been wrong before

treebeard55 · 03-23-2011, 02:07 AM

Rowdy, that doesn't look like any ash I'm familiar with: the leaves are too glossy, and the bark looks different.
Of course, I'm not familiar with all the Fraxinus there are. My suggestion would be to take a small branch, with leaves, to your local Extension office. They may be able to help you.

Rowdy · 03-23-2011, 10:55 AM

hmm being soo leggy in the new growth i'm beginning to think its a type of vine.
either way the 2 of them are getting removed, so might as well pot them and see what happens, as for soil should i go right to bonsai soil or keep as much of what they are in already?

treebeard55 · 03-23-2011, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rowdy

... l should go right to bonsai soil or keep as much of what they are in already?

When you put any soil or potting mix into a container, the drainage characteristics change: garden soil, "dirt," is too fine-textured for a container
and immediately becomes a suffocation trap for anything but a bald cypress or a water lily!

Best to get something coarser. Buy bonsai soil, or mix some up. There are a number of inexpensive recipes around.

logan3 · 03-23-2011, 06:18 PM

The leaves on your plants look like ' Heavenly Bamboo'. Has the plant ever produced reddish colored berries?

Rowdy · 03-23-2011, 11:45 PM

not sure this is my first season in this house that trunk dosent look like any bamboo i ever heard of

Rowdy · 03-23-2011, 11:48 PM

wow after a brief google image search you might be right on the money with that...

Pup · 03-24-2011, 02:12 AM

Nandina domestica, is not a member of the Bamboosa family.

It has the common name of bamboo only.

That one you have there has some age to it.

treebeard55 · 03-24-2011, 07:51 AM

Pup nailed it.

Nandina is a classic for bonsai. You may have a nice starter there!

03-22-2011, 04:12 PM	#1 (permalink)
Rowdy Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Brick, New Jersey, 6b Posts: 14	potting yamadori i have decided to bypass my project to air layer some trees on my property until next spring. i have however found 2 stunted what i believe to be ash with loads of potential. when potting them after removing from the ground should they go right into bonsai pots or should i use some of the nursery pots i have around, also do i go right to bonsai soil or something else to start.. have never started with a wild tree before always nursery stock..

03-23-2011, 02:07 AM	#3 (permalink)
treebeard55 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Warsaw IN, USA USDA zone 5b Posts: 511	Rowdy, that doesn't look like any ash I'm familiar with: the leaves are too glossy, and the bark looks different. Of course, I'm not familiar with all the Fraxinus there are. My suggestion would be to take a small branch, with leaves, to your local Extension office. They may be able to help you. __________________ Treebeard 55 Steve Moore http://hoosierbonsai.blogspot.com The most important bonsai tool is your brain.

03-24-2011, 02:12 AM	#9 (permalink)
Pup Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Perth suburbs Western Australia Posts: 406	Nandina domestica, is not a member of the Bamboosa family. It has the common name of bamboo only. That one you have there has some age to it. __________________ G, day I live in western Australia I have been trying for the last 20+ years with some success to grow Bonsai. I am a perpetual learner and an advanced beginner

03-24-2011, 07:51 AM	#10 (permalink)
treebeard55 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Warsaw IN, USA USDA zone 5b Posts: 511	Pup nailed it. Nandina is a classic for bonsai. You may have a nice starter there! __________________ Treebeard 55 Steve Moore http://hoosierbonsai.blogspot.com The most important bonsai tool is your brain.

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03-22-2011, 04:42 PM	#2 (permalink)
Rowdy Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Brick, New Jersey, 6b Posts: 14	couple pics signs point to ash but i have been wrong before

03-23-2011, 10:55 AM	#4 (permalink)
Rowdy Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Brick, New Jersey, 6b Posts: 14	hmm being soo leggy in the new growth i'm beginning to think its a type of vine. either way the 2 of them are getting removed, so might as well pot them and see what happens, as for soil should i go right to bonsai soil or keep as much of what they are in already?

03-23-2011, 06:18 PM	#6 (permalink)
logan3 logan3 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Felton,Ca. Posts: 8	The leaves on your plants look like ' Heavenly Bamboo'. Has the plant ever produced reddish colored berries?

03-23-2011, 11:45 PM	#7 (permalink)
Rowdy Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Brick, New Jersey, 6b Posts: 14	not sure this is my first season in this house that trunk dosent look like any bamboo i ever heard of

03-23-2011, 11:48 PM	#8 (permalink)
Rowdy Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Brick, New Jersey, 6b Posts: 14	wow after a brief google image search you might be right on the money with that...

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