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Vic--The Phloem is outside the cambium, so once your get to the cambium, you are already through the phloem.
You've picked some tough customers to learn on. Get a bougainvillea and practice on that.
DR
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Bonsai is easy! All you have to do is stare at a little tree until drops of blood form on your forehead.--paraphrased from Gene Fowler
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